Katherine Stone, a fellow PPD blogger who writes the awesome Postpartum Progress blog, has commented on my last post...
"This is a good discussion. There are so many different people women can see, and each has a widely varying amount of experience treating these disorders. It is so important to ask whoever you're seeing how much experience they've had treating women with postpartum mood disorders. I actually prefer people who specialize in these disorders, even though they are few and far between. I also had a bad experience with a psychiatrist who just kept prescribing me more and more medications. It definitely prevented me from getting better, and I suffered longer than I should have."
On her blog, Postpartum Progress, Katherine has a list of links to some of the top hospitals and clinics in the United States that have specialties in and conduct research on women's perinatal mood disorders. She researched this list herself and did a great job, offering a great starting point for those who are searching for a medical professional (or a referral to one) who specializes in PPD and other postpartum mood disorders.
Yay, Katherine! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on my blog and doing such great work to increase awareness of PPD!!!
Showing posts with label psychiatrist. Show all posts
Showing posts with label psychiatrist. Show all posts
Are there any psychiatrists out there who actually talk to you?
Passing As Myself left a good comment on my last post when I was getting to the point of ranting about how hard it is to find a psychiatrist (this was following a previous post where I ranted about how we all need to get our anti-depressants from psychiatrists and not from other doctors who don't specialize in the brain). Here's what Passing As Myself said:
"I also wanted to point out that some psychiatrists can be even worse than getting meds from a PCP (primary care physician). Many are content to over-medicate and focus on the meds and not include any talk therapy. The best mental health care I ever got was from a psychologist. When I told her I thought I needed drugs, she talked over all the options with me and then called my PCP to ask her to write the scrip. Then she and I could focus our energy on cognitive-behavioral therapy. More than one psychiatrist has prescribed drugs to me without bothering to give me options or explain why they thought their pick was best."
I thought this was such a great point that I just had to post on it.... So I started out this thread of thought trying to express my frustration that there are so many women suffering from PPD who get anti-depressants from their gynecologists or internists, etc., when those doctors clearly do not specialize in the area of mental health and have no business trying to determine brain meds. or dosage levels. I've personally gotten myself in big trouble doing this when I took a new SSRI (that seriously screwed me up) that my gynecologist prescribed, then later found out she'd been receiving "gifts" from the pharma rep. that carried this SSRI.
Here, Passing As Myself has brought up the fact that if you're lucky enough to even find a practicing psychiatrist in your area who takes new patients (hopefully without a 3-6 month waiting list) and is actually covered by your insurance, you still may not receive the care that you need. I once went to a psychiatrist who was already writing out my prescription when we were less than 10 minutes into the consultation. He barely even made eye contact with me the entire time I was there, which lasted about 11 minutes. Crazy. I've since had a couple of good experiences with psychiatrists, so I haven't lost faith in them in general. The very best experience I've had has been with a psychiatric nurse practitioner who didn't simply write up a script; she listened and talked with me for an hour each time I went to see her. Isn't this how psychiatrists used to operate? Why is it that now they're just into prescribing meds?
Anyway, what Passing As Myself has found is a fantastic option when you aren't able to find a psychiatrist who will spend the time with you that you need and deserve. I'm so glad she shared her experience!!
"I also wanted to point out that some psychiatrists can be even worse than getting meds from a PCP (primary care physician). Many are content to over-medicate and focus on the meds and not include any talk therapy. The best mental health care I ever got was from a psychologist. When I told her I thought I needed drugs, she talked over all the options with me and then called my PCP to ask her to write the scrip. Then she and I could focus our energy on cognitive-behavioral therapy. More than one psychiatrist has prescribed drugs to me without bothering to give me options or explain why they thought their pick was best."
I thought this was such a great point that I just had to post on it.... So I started out this thread of thought trying to express my frustration that there are so many women suffering from PPD who get anti-depressants from their gynecologists or internists, etc., when those doctors clearly do not specialize in the area of mental health and have no business trying to determine brain meds. or dosage levels. I've personally gotten myself in big trouble doing this when I took a new SSRI (that seriously screwed me up) that my gynecologist prescribed, then later found out she'd been receiving "gifts" from the pharma rep. that carried this SSRI.
Here, Passing As Myself has brought up the fact that if you're lucky enough to even find a practicing psychiatrist in your area who takes new patients (hopefully without a 3-6 month waiting list) and is actually covered by your insurance, you still may not receive the care that you need. I once went to a psychiatrist who was already writing out my prescription when we were less than 10 minutes into the consultation. He barely even made eye contact with me the entire time I was there, which lasted about 11 minutes. Crazy. I've since had a couple of good experiences with psychiatrists, so I haven't lost faith in them in general. The very best experience I've had has been with a psychiatric nurse practitioner who didn't simply write up a script; she listened and talked with me for an hour each time I went to see her. Isn't this how psychiatrists used to operate? Why is it that now they're just into prescribing meds?
Anyway, what Passing As Myself has found is a fantastic option when you aren't able to find a psychiatrist who will spend the time with you that you need and deserve. I'm so glad she shared her experience!!
So what's up with our access to anti-depressants?
A woman e-mailed me this morning after reading my last post and said that she's really suffering and needs to see a psychiatrist. She gave birth to her baby after a very traumatic delivery about 6 weeks ago and she's been experiencing some troubling OCD symptoms, like obsessive hand-washing. The problem is that she has no insurance and limited funds, so when she called a psychiatrist that she found in her phone book and was told that it would cost her $225 an hour to see him, she gave up. So I started researching free and low-cost psychiatric resources in her state when this comment appeared on my blog from Moxie Mom:
"I wonder if the inconsistency stems from the availability of seeing a shrink that is affordable since many, many, people have terrible health care. It's much easier for a women to see her PCP (primary care physician) than it might be to see a shrink in that case. Of course, I agree with all of your comments: a shrink would be the best choice. Believe it or not, I have pretty good health care but I see a psychologist and get my drugs from my PCP. All the real psychiatrists wouldn't call me back, even after I left several messages. I called 5 of them. Talk about an eye-opener. Seems to me, all levels of health care providers need to start stepping up their game and thinking outside their box."
Moxie Mom's comment really made me think. I know that in my city, Phoenix, there are very, very few psychiatrists and when you actually find one who happens to be taking new patients, the wait could be as long as 3-6 months. It's ridiculous. There's no way a woman suffering from PPD, not to mention her baby, can wait that long. I could rant about this for hours....
But I still had to figure out how to help this poor woman with no health insurance.... so I'll rant about the general lack of psychiatric care later. I did find a state-funded mental health program in her state that had several psychiatric clinics spread throughout her county. At the clinics, she would be able to have access to either a psychiatrist or a psychiatric nurse practitioner to receive medication if necessary, and also a psychologist for talk therapy. If she qualified all of the services and meds would be free, but even if she didn't qualify financially, she would still receive everything at a 40-60% discount compared to private practices.
That was encouraging and I hope to hear back from her after she finds the support she needs. Moxie Mom, thanks for sharing your thoughts!
"I wonder if the inconsistency stems from the availability of seeing a shrink that is affordable since many, many, people have terrible health care. It's much easier for a women to see her PCP (primary care physician) than it might be to see a shrink in that case. Of course, I agree with all of your comments: a shrink would be the best choice. Believe it or not, I have pretty good health care but I see a psychologist and get my drugs from my PCP. All the real psychiatrists wouldn't call me back, even after I left several messages. I called 5 of them. Talk about an eye-opener. Seems to me, all levels of health care providers need to start stepping up their game and thinking outside their box."
Moxie Mom's comment really made me think. I know that in my city, Phoenix, there are very, very few psychiatrists and when you actually find one who happens to be taking new patients, the wait could be as long as 3-6 months. It's ridiculous. There's no way a woman suffering from PPD, not to mention her baby, can wait that long. I could rant about this for hours....
But I still had to figure out how to help this poor woman with no health insurance.... so I'll rant about the general lack of psychiatric care later. I did find a state-funded mental health program in her state that had several psychiatric clinics spread throughout her county. At the clinics, she would be able to have access to either a psychiatrist or a psychiatric nurse practitioner to receive medication if necessary, and also a psychologist for talk therapy. If she qualified all of the services and meds would be free, but even if she didn't qualify financially, she would still receive everything at a 40-60% discount compared to private practices.
That was encouraging and I hope to hear back from her after she finds the support she needs. Moxie Mom, thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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